The Scourge of the Shire

[Grok11]

anyway im not making this map now im making the
Scourge of the Shire
with a couple of changes but i need a couple of skins so if nuklearpanda doesant mind i will pm what i want

[Grok11]

hmm is anyone going to post here as i wany comments ans surgestions on what should be in the map

[ForsakenOne]

erh some hobbits maybe !??!!?
=D

[Grok11]

well yea hobbits of course but i need some skins for
1-merry on horse (hero)
2-pippin on horse (hero)
3-frodo on horse (hero)
4-sam on horse (hero)
5-farmer magot (hero)
others at a later date

[Kieron]

was farmer maggot in the scouring of the shire?

[NuklearPanda]

Did Sam have a horse? Cause If anything he'd just have a donkey or a mule.

[KabukiWarrior]

Hobbits cant ride horses, if you saw in the Two Towers Pippin almost gets crushed by one. They usually ride ponies if im remembering correctly.

Also some demi-heroes could be Rose Cotton, her dad..............I guess there arent many that stand out in that battle

[alex1560]

okay it seems that you all need my vast nowledge of Tolkiens works in this one. First off about Saruman, BBIIIIGGG mistake having him in here because Saruman and Sauron were not in leage with eachother, they both wanted to conquer there own things, the movie was jjust decieving. Also stated many times Sauron was the MOST powerful of the Mair, the Istari were minor Mair just servants. Gandalf, whos name is Olorin in the west was a servant of Nienna but he came from the line of Manwe but he was still nothing like Sauron. Also Saruman fell into that class but he was a Mair of Aule who was a smithly therefore Saruman had vast knowledge of ring crafting. But my point is that Saruman wasnt even in class with Melkor (morgoth) or Sauron, or Gouthar the Creul in Sindarin tounge. Its mentioned in the Valaquenta if u need to make sure of this.

[alex1560]

also i thought this took place 1000 years later not 50 around when Sam, Merry, Pippin and Frodo died

[narsilLOTR]

hey how can ya know sam and frodo died?
well merry and pippin did, that is known, and their bodies lay next to aragorn´s in the halls of the death in minas tirith....

but all we know is that frodo sailed to valinor with the ringbearers, and that sam followed him many years later....they could still be there. who knows? tolkien maybe...but hes dead....damnit ;D

[alex1560]

his crazy ass son isnt dead yet and i bet they died within like hmm 1500 years, no wait thats impossible, Arda is really our earth its just Tolkiens interpritation of how we came to be so around then they would be entering hmm lemme think the Dinosaurs or possibly ice age

[Grok11]

alex1560 said:

also i thought this took place 1000 years later not 50 around when Sam, Merry, Pippin and Frodo died

er by the way its not set 1000 years in the futre if you read carefully i completeley changed the map so it wouldnt be any years later as its in the rotk

[ForsakenOne]

Also stated many times Sauron was the MOST powerful of the Mair, the Istari were minor Mair just servants.

Sauron wasnt the most powerful Maiar by any means. Remember Manwe is the first of the Valar and his Maiar are bound to be the most powerful

Sauron was only the strongest of Morgoths servants, not the strongest maiar.

[narsilLOTR]

agree about sauron wasnt the strongest of the maia....the strongest of the evil ones, or at least the one that did survive longest and was most "liked" by melkor...

but....manwe is the first of the valar in valinor, and the most powerfull of these, but actually melkor was the most powerfull of the 2....at least he was in start, before he got pwned and changed his being....but its said in the book of the lost tales (which I just got and read <wohooo>) that hes the most powerfull of them all ;D

[Garothaur]

Eonwe is the most power miar by far, and melian would give sauron a run for his money