KiNGJAH
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Post by KiNGJAH on May 31, 2004 8:20:09 GMT -5
well.... elf towers in gondor r ownage..... its easier to discuss tactic then do it.... its enough that 1 hero dies and ur tac may fall....
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Post by KiNGJAH on May 31, 2004 8:21:17 GMT -5
and whit mass elf towers in gondor evil heroes cant go near them cause if u have like 9 elf towers then focus em on 1 hero in a couple of sec... hes dead
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Post by fingolfin on May 31, 2004 8:28:01 GMT -5
Most players first send their units, and let their heros stay in the back.. Lorien is much weaker without the extra towers, and don't forget that heros only take 50% from Magic damage, so they are good tanks, especially when they got healed by that Rejuvenation spell
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Post by KiNGJAH on Jun 1, 2004 7:46:07 GMT -5
lorien already got 6 towers... its enough to hold em back till someone can help... and lorien doesent spawn uber good units.. ... and fingol.... lol... it was u who first said elf towers were a good tac and now when i also say that u say it sucks?? ur just lol
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 1, 2004 9:36:20 GMT -5
Well I THOUGHT it was a good strat, and I posted it here, but then in the discussion I got convinced that is isn't THAT good . And since everybody builds his castles at lorien, and since it has a healing aura, its best to fortify it more.
I didn't said it 'cause of you
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Post by KiNGJAH on Jun 1, 2004 14:00:36 GMT -5
well fingol... u could also build ur castles as a protecting wall around lorien main buildin.... thats enough to hold em back for a while till someone helps u.... and often u see if they r gonna attack lorien or not so u could just run there urself.... some like elf towers in gondor some dont.... i use em in gondor cause they own..a nettet naz inside tower range is a dead naz..
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 1, 2004 14:13:18 GMT -5
You can't aim the castles ... And imo a stronger Lorien is better then an invincible Gondor. Go read the posts that others made.
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Post by KiNGJAH on Jun 2, 2004 4:59:16 GMT -5
well fingol U CAN aim the castles... seems u didnt know that.. and lorien is easy to take out if u really wanna take it out... kill the trees around it.. and its a easy target.... actually a strong gondor is better than lorien since gondor spawn much better units than lorien do..
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 2, 2004 5:07:11 GMT -5
In my expierance when gondor towers up insanely all the outer bases slowly one by one get killed off...which takes a long time but ends with gondor finally falling through lack of support...but only as long as naz are alive...or the game just ends in a draw or a ringdrop well nep, I know (which I said btw) it makes gondor nearly unattackable at least as long as evil dont have many cata....but then gondor is NEVER under attack, so gondor MUST go with the cluster in north, so you have no choice in game anymore, all you can do is clustering north, evil will also come there, and if your unlucky, you get pwned (mordor, naz, moria, easter can basically face alot)...so this tactic leads to some mono-sense game, only fights in north, ergo its only a pure strength game, no more any tactic like some attack in north n others harad so to make naz run up n down without getting any xp.... and btw, you dont get any xp in a cluster...can easilY happen you r just lvl2 after killing gobbo, guldur n rhun.... nep if you try to cluster north without units as good you're more or less dead, I mean, lots of orcs + wain riders + gobbos + naz and other goodie heroes (like ovatha, silence ruins the effect of cluster) and then you're dead.. unless you run but then you won't get any bases and evil can wait you out till they have catas which can neutralize the defenses of gondor.. In my expierance when gondor towers up insanely all the outer bases slowly one by one get killed off...which takes a long time but ends with gondor finally falling through lack of support...but only as long as naz are alive...or the game just ends in a draw or a ringdrop more then naz, the DnD heroes (mouth n owy), cata making spawns from harad n mordor, and saru/bane are important to get rid of massive def at gondor....and drisc is right, at the end only gondorĀ“s centre lives...dol falls easy, then some blizzards/rain of fire on towers and gondor is history Look at this before you post something... And how do ya aim your castles then? Didn't knew that EDIT: Nvm, I thought you ment something different with aiming castles
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Post by HDK on Jun 10, 2004 11:28:57 GMT -5
what i find best (for the team) is....
building at least 1 tower in hd against uruks building at least 1 tower in erebor or dale and mass building in shire and also building in places of last resort like west of dol amroth against isen/moria
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 10, 2004 11:50:29 GMT -5
Towering up Shire, I did it a few times when we were sure of victory...
I sounds good, but it leaves the other bases unprotected.
What do the other people think og this?
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Post by HDK on Jun 10, 2004 12:31:43 GMT -5
it leaves other bases unprotected?like what?shire can give you lumber and elf really doesnt need to tower any of its bases,tower rivendell in b17-d?it dies anyway.
Havens?if shire is dead havens will fall Lorien?Loriens defence is in heros and men not towers thrans cavern?if erebor falls then so shall thrans
shire can give u lumber for shire dorf 1500 for 1 tower in erebor rohan 1500 for 1 tower in hd gondor maybe give you some use own lumber on either more towers in hd/erebor/shire or build in dol amroth
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Post by OOJ on Jun 10, 2004 17:29:32 GMT -5
HDK the new, well i dont think its gonna be like that now, but the new riven was easy to defend, and didnt fall easily at all. Like rivendell never would have.
Sadly if we go back to the old version again the West will be abandoned and fucked off. Even worse when Riven is the elves best spawn at high levels but yet it sucks for defendin in B17-D
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 11, 2004 0:39:33 GMT -5
hmm Good point you got HDK.. I played a game and the elf builded 1 single elfentower in helms Deep, and he took all my kills when they attacked If you tower up Shire, then you do it in Bree don't you?
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Post by OOJ on Jun 11, 2004 5:25:32 GMT -5
Fing u do it behind the gay wooden fence and the stone one at bree.
However if Saru high level its useless anyways. But holding shire usually results in the whole West beign saved, although riven or bele could still be taken if evil were sad enough to run all the way round!
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