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Post by Seb on May 31, 2004 4:36:34 GMT -5
I think Smaug was the last one. But I dunno.. The dragons fled from Morgoth to Middle earth.. But good idea anyway, ill consider it!
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Post by GezGas on May 31, 2004 5:39:03 GMT -5
Smaug was the last great dragon.
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Post by fingolfin on May 31, 2004 5:50:46 GMT -5
Yes he was, all others were dead from the wars versus the Goblins and the Dwarves, but there lived many wolves between Mirkwood and the Grey Mountains..
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Post by Fuzzlewump on May 31, 2004 19:43:01 GMT -5
Yeah, Smaug was the last great dragon, but there were lesser dragons still right?
Edit: Oh yes, and I forgot. I've been playing Starcraft: Brood War lately and it seems like the Starcraft LotR maps have alot more lord of the rings flavour within them than in Ring Wars. What I mean is, is that in Starcraft there alot of buildings that don't spawn anything they are just there for the flavor. For instance in Starcraft there would be a specific building for alot of things. Like there was a building for Osgiliath, Amon-Sul and for some city in Gondor... yeah, you get the idea.
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 2, 2004 10:47:43 GMT -5
Owk, So what do you think of this? Effects of the Three:Vilya- Gives Elrond the abillity to raise the waterlevel of the river Bruinen.
- Gives Imladris a Healing Aura.
Nenya- Gives Galadriel the abillity to cast a spell that gives Lorien an aura that damages enemy units in Lorien (Just like in the Singleplayer mission, when you have to destroy Dalaran, and the Archamages cast that).
- Gives Lorien an Healing Aura.
Narya- Gives Gandalf the abillity to cast Nazgûl Bane.
- Gives the units nearby the bearer extra armor, and reduces the armor of nearby enemy units.
When Sauron regains the Ring:- The Three lose their power.
- Sauron gets a huge Command Aura which increases the attack speed and attack rate of nearby units, also reduces the armor of nearby enemy units.
- The spawns of Mordor and Minas Morgul spawn the double amount of units every time, this increases with the amount of Castles builded.
Ringdrop- Barad-Dûr, the Black Gate and Minas Morgul are destroyed.
- Mordor's spawns in Dol Guldor decrease with 50%.
- The Nazgûl lose 40 Hp per second until they are dead.
Maybe make the Elvenheros a bit weaker, to keep the game balanced.
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Post by ForsakenOne on Jun 2, 2004 15:39:23 GMT -5
i like these ideas all but the Sauron one. I dont know if Sauron as physical form all game thru will work..
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 2, 2004 16:04:28 GMT -5
Took me ages to type it like that ;D
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Post by KabukiWarrior on Jun 3, 2004 16:56:10 GMT -5
Shouldn't all elves lose a good chunk of health because the three rings that sustained them lost thier power?
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Post by OOJ on Jun 3, 2004 17:55:28 GMT -5
When sauron gets ring the elven rings wudnt lose there power!!
The rign gives them power, only if the ring is destroyed shud their power be lost, also why wud they get weaker, they shud just losethe abilities. i.e healin in lorien
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Post by OoEEarendil on Jun 3, 2004 17:59:02 GMT -5
When Sauron has the rings the elves wouldnt loose thier powers, they just wouldnt use the rings at all. Sauron can feel the presense of the ring-bearers. So they wouldnt use them. Throught the whole thing, Sauron does not know who holds the rings. He suspects Galadriel and Elrond. He is not postitive.
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Post by ForsakenOne on Jun 4, 2004 6:25:49 GMT -5
Well either way im using Fingos Elf ring ideas.(Expect ur name in credits).
Btw anyone wants to give ideas for spells, skills, unit ideas, new building types etc would be most welcome to be received.
Gonna try and get Easterlings and Shire playable soon (the elf rings things are already made by the way and they are great especially that damaging aura around Caras Galadhon.)
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Post by OOJ on Jun 4, 2004 7:06:14 GMT -5
Havent seen the map, so not cant comment to much.
But if the elven heirarchy of units is the same it would be nice to change it. Cos the spawns are so boring and to be honest elven loads look shit and arent much use cos its impossible to get a decent amount of them.
Maybe elves need a medium unit.
Soldiers & Archers (the basics) Somet else (maybe an elite swordsman) Elven Lords Eagles & balistas
Cos when u play elves in RW its all hero based and u hardly use ur units except to kill dunland if west is alive and as some back up in other fights. I mena elves were only meant to be the ones who could save Middle Earth nothing important.
Also get rid of elrond as a stupid ranged hero, get him into the hand to hand combat which he should be, but make him cool, not like a shitty glorfindal in rw whose health sucks.
Maybe generally take the amount of super spells a hero has and have them more warrior based, like combat skills. So melee are harder to kill at higher levels because there skills are good, not cos then can mass wave u or slam u.
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Post by GezGas on Jun 4, 2004 7:11:18 GMT -5
when sauron gets the ring, all bearer (the 3 rings) should be turned into evil
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 4, 2004 8:21:29 GMT -5
When Sauron has the rings the elves wouldnt loose thier powers, they just wouldnt use the rings at all. Sauron can feel the presense of the ring-bearers. So they wouldnt use them. Throught the whole thing, Sauron does not know who holds the rings. He suspects Galadriel and Elrond. He is not postitive. Thats right. They would 'feel' the presense of Sauron, just like Celebrimbor did. They would put of their Rings and by that dispelling the effects of them. So in fact they get powerless because they can't be used.
when sauron gets the ring, all bearer (the 3 rings) should be turned into evil That would happen if they kept using the Three, but they don't, they put them of. The 9 didn't putted them of, and they became slaves of the One Ring.
About the Elven units: I dunnow if they use the same types of units, but maybe make them stronger (More Hp and Damage) and decrease the amounts in which they spawn? EDIT: Maybe give them a spell called: 'Wrath of the Eldar' or 'Wrath of the Firstborn', (since not All elves were Eldar) that gives them an abillity like Battle Frenzy or something.. Just a thought
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Post by OoEEarendil on Jun 4, 2004 8:42:01 GMT -5
OOJ-You make an extremly good point,one I think the BFME crew has payed much closer attention to. Im not sure what they've done, but i'm sure they've done something.
I have some ideas:
Elven Councler: Spawns at Rivendell. Has the Council ability. Maybe has Bless? Elven Mariner: Its in WotJ...but it needs to be in BFME. Spawns at Mithlond. Has no abilities i can think of.... Silvian Ranger: Spawns at Lorien and Thranduils Caverns. Shadow Meld, some kinda other thing...
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