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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 11, 2004 11:08:08 GMT -5
Now vote 4 the evil side... same as in previous vote, tell me nation ur best with and/or u like most to play
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Post by BaronDrage on Jan 12, 2004 1:22:28 GMT -5
Can't really say anything to this... My opinion changes all the time. Some day I like Moria then nazgul then something else. I never like easter though nor Mordor.
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Post by AragornII on Jan 13, 2004 8:17:10 GMT -5
I agree with baron about it being hard to tell...
I'm getting better and better with nazgul since I've started to play them alot. right now they're definetely my favorite race.
Harad is boring most times I think but it's a a strong race and quite good for beginners in my opinion if gondor isn't rushing harad all the time.
Easterlings can be very effective if you can use silence from ovatha on fellowship they're almost useless for a while in this time sending warg riders or wainriders to hit frodo while kurgath ensnares him can be fatal for the good side.
Moria is always a nice race to play, the heroes make a great combination. barg heals, bane takes the damage and gollum runs out to get any running heroes with entangle/bite so your units can surround him and kill him off. The moria untis aren't so great though. most units have quite low hp and all have heavy armor. heavy armor is in it self quite good but since moria has lorien lying to the east and rivendell to the west (elven towers with magic dam... hurts alot against heavy armor) they're almost useless if you rush alone.. still a good moria player can get rivendell without much loss, especially if isengard helps.
Isengard is also one of my favorites on the evil team, sarumans flame is very nice, but if rohan knows how to play saruman can be stuck inside isengard for hours during a game simply because rohan wont allow him to gain xp (making 2-3 archer towers inside hd holds off most isen players, if you have creep gold to repair of course).
now finally Mordor. it's one of the most important races on evil. it's units is the backbone of the army. the trolls can be very efficient in groups (especielly the Olog-Hai trolls) they do a quite high damage and have alot of armor and hp. the Mordor heroes are not to be triffled with either. Shelob can web any hero that gets to close while some fast orcs quickly surround him and kill him. Shagrat is a great support hero like barg with black water, also he has the ability to summon orcs, thus giving you an advantage (don't use it right b4 or in battle though as you'll need all the mana you can get to heal your heroes). Mouth is a very nice hero to have. his darkness is a nice spell but what I think most people do wrong when they play mordor is that they take wave as a first skill with mouth. Wave is as Vie has said b4 not a very good skill if you only have 1 of them. his Revive skill however is very nice especielly if you're lucky enough to raise trolls/riders/ents it can quickly tip the scales of a battle if used correctly. mouths aura is also very nice a shame it doesn't stack with murazors aura though.
maybe I answered a bit more then you wanted here fred but I'll post most of this in the General Strategies as well...
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Post by ViEDarklord on Jan 13, 2004 9:39:28 GMT -5
I personally like the naz especially as I'm also good with them it's fun being in some control of how a game goes. I also like moria and isengard as they can be very important altough often left in the back, the easterings are also nice I think as they can be strong and are often underestimated
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 13, 2004 10:24:03 GMT -5
well this was only to check ur feelings, we all know more or less that all races are important....here not judge how good/usefull a nation is, but more simple, just what u like most^^
btw aragorn, it was me and not fred/gez that made this thread^^
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Post by AragornII on Jan 13, 2004 12:35:49 GMT -5
Yeah I can see that now narsil... but after having written all that I couldn't focus on minor details and I agree with vie on his view of easterlings... I remember something Infernal once told me... he had a little encounter as fellowship in lvl 1 with lvl 3 easterling heroes and a couple of warg riders.... didn't turn out to well for inf....
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Post by LordFaramir on Jan 13, 2004 14:23:26 GMT -5
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 13, 2004 19:21:04 GMT -5
well doubling isnt that clever as nowadays, more units aint evry time better as it feeds fs....hm and who givesd mordor the gold? i c only easter 4 that and then dwarfs can be heavy threat 4 guldur....
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Post by Seb on Jan 14, 2004 8:59:12 GMT -5
I prefer nazguls most... Their waves own and Flying Nazgul is also a good ownage! But like ViE or narsil said... A alone nazgul in the wilderness is not the best thing to do..
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Post by LordFaramir on Jan 14, 2004 10:07:17 GMT -5
well nars if mordor dubl.. he can defend easterlings if he is good.. after 2-3 castle mordor kick ass (if he doubling)
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 14, 2004 10:36:52 GMT -5
faramir well good team shud know they double quite fast and can do the same or just kill guldur!....its quite easy if all go on guldur esept gondor that attaks harad first....btw bigger spawn of mordor makes the fs and gondor heroes just more xp, as the flame is deadly vs slow trolls and mass orcs...so i wont advice to do double....thge contrary goes to gondor, doubled gondor becoems really stroger, i mean dol amroth cant be killed so easy if gondor gets help and then morgul is in heavy trouble with the balistas they can spare!
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Post by infernal on Jan 15, 2004 9:22:06 GMT -5
so true ara, I think I'll share it all to you now I was playing on west with many good west players, I had fs lvl 3 and was going to rescure entmoot from easter (easter was PowerDefence make sure to read the thread about west in clan meeting room), easter had lvl 3 heroes and a group of variags riders and a few wain and I thought, this will be easy to own him.. His silence hit right on the fs crippling all of my heroes so I couldnt do a shit, a sec after he ensnared frodo and quickly surrounded him with variags, then when I tried to help poor frodo he did a few wain stomps and quickly surrounded boromir aswell! I ran for my life after but lost frodo and boro due to that I underestimated easterlings, in the right hands easter is one of the most deadly races... that's why I have started playing them a bit and have become reasonably good with them, though I like nazguls much better cause they are so god damn fun to play but in a cm and vie is naz I deffinetely choose easter.
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Post by infernal on Jan 15, 2004 9:23:49 GMT -5
ehm thats strange I wrote couldnt do a shit not nuts.. ah what the hell...
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Post by infernal on Jan 15, 2004 9:24:54 GMT -5
ahhhhhh ffs each time I type S H I T it changes into nuts man thats odd.. ah well consider all the "nuts" as S H I T....
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Post by Kieron on Jan 15, 2004 17:44:52 GMT -5
To be honoust i just love playing as isengard again...and rohan as good......i have this thing about being in the middle of middle earth (no pun intended) what i find great playing as isengard against a rohan u know is good is when u start.......give grima (best hero ever) his poisen and send him straight out...do ure little sentry thing and wait for the nice little worker to come trotting over ready to save helms deep.....a few dead workers later and of course....ure a noob....ure a shit and ure gonna be bl.....isengard is so fun
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