Races-Good

[narsilLOTR]

attaking from osgiliath is rather dumb, as then evil troops have to face double of the towers as if they wud only go from south...and tell me what in hell can mordor aim after that towers? the fountain? just crap, easy to defend and then they r in range of other towers...grond is 2 slow to be there 4 the rush! and if u go from east, u have 90% chances to be in range of gondor uber towers of minas which just pwn ur army....so the attak is useless 4 evil...if all go from south and r not dumb to attak centre ( ;D) then they can easily threat lossar, if fs/elves r fast, then it may not fall but at least naz got all gondor troops as xp and towers in south r down....

[ElfMageKoDA]

Hmm? this may be a stupid qeustion but, osgiliath aint a spawning place? or am I wrong now?

[infernal]

I never attack Osgiliath unless some newb on good side have planted loads of units there for me to feed on, anyway attacking from south is mostly the only way.

[KabukiWarrior]

Hmm? this may be a stupid qeustion but, osgiliath aint a spawning place? or am I wrong now?

No Osgiliath doesnt create any spawns.

[Mephodrius]

I personally like elves the most With their 3 waves +chain lighting +slam of cele the can kill most armies easily. Another good thing about the elves is that there ultimates pwn!!

[Mephodrius]

sry wrote the in post before i meant they*

[Iluvatar]

just a tip, u can modify ur posts, u dont have to correct them in a new post

[nepriqtnii]

hmm for me dwarves pwn for now but gondor are very good 2 these riderz pwn. naz can be very easily surrouned and killed ( and not only naz ). But dwarf hero's are the best HEROKILLERS. 2+2+2 sec stun 3 hammers no1 can resist ...

[Alatar_theIstar]

Ye nep, i hate dwarves ^^. If a naz player has smth to scare, that's definetly dwarves (and if nepster is dwarves then u prefer staying at south with your poor nazzies ;D )

[ElfMageKoDA]

btw inf you say deadliest hero squad is fs, but i dont agree , its easters fucking easters pwn the place like hell sielcne war stomp net and then also speed aura WOHOOO

[TurinGorthol]

Rohan is the best!
because of the mass of riders, who can own heros with trapping, with help from erken stun and red arrow of gondor!
And they have Three wavers, waves rock!

[TurinGorthol]

And Btw elves is second, because their of their unit killing abilities! I love the sound of many dead orcsses! ;D

[TurinGorthol]

Fellow is a very fun race to play!
But i am not as good fellow as i was before!
i hadnt played Wc3 for 3-4 months!
So i would like to get better with FS!

Ara maybe u have some tips?

[ElfMageKoDA]

omg you spammer and elves can kill. heroes ya but only at high lvl

[HDK]

Firstly
South is only way to rush gondor,and ffs what amazes me is how most people play gondor and how most evil rush gondor.its so easy most of the time even against pros.but this tactic is weird so plz dont flame me,all i do is heros group1... 12 knights group 2...12 swordsman group 3,and the rest of foot soldiers group 4.

Then as evil hits the southern defences get all footmen group 3 and 4 around the foutain and status as hold ground and equip defend (the foutain regen outdoes naz wave)keep heros and knights near foutain, i personally dont give a shit bout pella its far better to die than fountain but i know alot of you will disagree with me but that my oponion,keep heros and knights loose jus west of fountain and if naz come to feed off men at fountain (it wont work because as i said the foutain regen outdoes naz wave) quickly net yaself a naz and surround with knights,and do this for any heros that come near foutain,ive never lost fountain to rush but i sometimes lose pella, and due to most euros not spawn targetting pella even if i dont send any help there, fellow or elf or both will get there before its destroyed most of the time, and also if they do go for pella and not fountain i send the 12 knights plus heros further west and come to pella from north (naz rarely go into melee at pella so there shudnt be any trouble there)run knights into/close to battle,flame,wave,wave,pull knights back (if they didnt get damaged)then wait for cooldowns then attempt again,if naz nuked you our knights got hurt pull back to foutain for heal and if naz come and they nuke you,(when you defending pela) so what knights have enough hp for you to pull back, and go fountain and heal, and if naz try nuking a hero your heros should ALWAYS be behind the meatshield of the knights so they are safe,alot of the time...and if not you have 1 healer which is enough to save a hero, from 1 round of naz nuking methinks, and naz shudnt be able to wave heros jus nightmare,due to knight meatshield.
most of the time i still have all heros plus all men and all knights at end or rush,sometimes i lose a couple of knights and men depending if they go for both pella and lossa because if knights at lossa then naz can nuke footmen down to lowish hp and then send in troops for melee.

Ive never lost fountain doing this and i lose pella rarely but i havent played gondor in a priv yet,it would be interesting...very...
Anyway dont flame me on my gondor tactic to rush, jus tell me what your views of the problems are and your thoughts plz, no flaming ive only started playing gondor but ive seen alot of gondors play and ive spoke to some pros from west and mixed alot of ideas together and came up with this and its worked fine so far but as i said ive yet to play private as gondor so....

Also when your rushing gondor jus throw all ya fuckin troops at fountain and target it (unless your sad and dont believe in targetting henneth) and no its not lame i can defend it fine so why cant other gondor players?

Fountain is 10 times as important as pella.
later in game if you run in and nuke 12 knights down to 50% health with naz and gondor has fountain, knights are back to full health in 2 mins, but if u nuke them without fountain it takes hours (unless fara heal,goldberry,farms,auras)for them to get back to full health.


Rohan If rohan gets creep gold then it hardly needs to camp rohan with heros to defend hd, and i must agree when i play rohan i use ALL lumber on hd but my heros hardly defend hd themselves (unless)there near and it looks like food, saruman can flame all he wants if you have a farm and towers there its safe from flame,and also ALOT of people use arrow for wrong reasons EVERYTIME i use arrow its for a chance of killing a hero
Heros group 1
12 knights group 2
All you gotta do is arrow run in with both groups,stun surround,pull heros back a bit,wave,wave,wave,then when hero dies pull knights out.
99% of time worse that can happen is you lose all 12 knights,wat alot of rohans foolishly do is surround with heros, then either heros die,or heros get low health so rohan pulls them back AND knights come with him, because hes hotkeyed them in same group thus freing surrounded hero.
and another thing rohan forgets to do DEFEND GONDOR AT RUSH
you can have an extra 12 knights and 4 heros at gondor for rush and 3 wavers
Rohan should play a loose role defending Lorien,fangorn,gondor,shire,riven,while helping offensively at dol,harad,dunland,gobbo
Rohan are quite uber this version,when you look at it,MASS riders,hero killing ability(if your pro one of best hero killing races in game)ive seen some rohans in west privates getting 10 hero kills and in top 3 kills list and thats in privs
They have 3 wavers
Healer
Stunner
One of best hero pwners (eowyn)
Slams
Aura's
Ressurect 24 men
And a AOE (Area Of Effect) level 6 ability (Ride For Ruin)

If your uber rohan you can use them to so much power and pwning (alot of people dont listen to me on this one) but ive yet to see a rohan player in europe play like they do in west (which i must say is alot better) but i cant really comment because i havent seen some of the best rohans in europe playing (ive heard unruly is good) but anyway plz dont flame me this is jus my oponion.

Fellowship
Now fs if used correctly can change the tide of the game.
3 stunners 2 wavers
2 Aoe Spells (gandy) Council
3 Slams (level upgradable) 4 heals (3upgradable)
and more ive prob missed
for hero killing,gimli stun,run in,sam rope,frodo stun,most of time hero dead, and when fellow level 5 you can stun a hero for more than 10 seconds i mean come on what hero can last longer than 10 seconds (without backup)
and fellow high level can pwn armies silly, look at there wavers,slams,aoe gandy spells,then at level 6 you can stun heros for longer than 15 seconds and do 900+ damage jus from the stuns using pippins stab...
I know it doesnt always work, because you lose heros, u dont get xp,other heros have backup, and your playing against pros, and such, but thats the ideal fellow and if your good enough and you have a good game you can play the fs that well, and get them that high level...

Elves....PWN....the end.....
Most of you will agree that a pro elf (unless mistakes) gets near to top kills in most games they have pwnage wavers they have 2 healers pwnage level 6 spells and in the right hands can pwn any army and kill some naz and bless absolutly owns level 3 alot of people underestimate bless level 3 and also lorien is easily one of easierst defendable places it owns, and if your pro elf you can easily stop grond from taking lorien (i myself have never lost lorien to grond)and also i dont give a shit about spawns (which isnt my form of play its due to i play rw for fun and its boring commaning 200 elf army) i jus use elf for heros, sure they are important and in cms i wud try to hold them,and i would use my troops,but in pubs i only use heros but pack lorien tight full of archer
I tower in lorien and i never use my troops as elf ill give someone else control to use them, except thrans caver and lorien spawn which i pack all into lorien(then when someone attacks they get pawned) except DnD and balrog level 6 and saruman level 6 u gotta be careful of them.

Dorfies
Stun for 14 seconds and do about 1000 damage jus from stuns now thats what i call ownage of heros (level 5) 3 level 6 dorf heros with demis is the kinda thing u see a level 2-3 naz shitting it from...
Isengard
Isen can win the battle for evil east along with moria if moria and isen work as a team and pwn west, then they can easily make that the tide of battle for evil, if they level there heros and destroy west (easier said than done i know) but if they do they can harass gondor from west and causing good to have to battle on 2 sides which can result in the win for evil,they have the AOE master spellcaster saruman and a command aura/bloodluster/waver hero, and one of best hero kilers, along with one of strongest units the uruk-hai,i could right 3 pages on isen tactics and i might in the tactics threads but this is already turning into a tactics post,and alot of you maybe think im not a good isen player due to my performence in pubs but i would jus like to say in my defence that in pubs i never fully concentrate heck half the time im chattin to m8s on msn at same time (not when im hosting) only maybe quest has seen me or can see my full potential as isen or maybe the rws team in our cm against them as sotr 1 week before quest disbanded clan anyway this is a FUCKING LONG POST, and i bet half of you wont even read it, so im gonna stop before my fingers drop off..anyway for the few of you who can be bothered to read it can you post your thoughts and stuff about it and plz no flaming...

LOL jus reread my post ive asked you not to flame me like 10 times *hint hint*