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Post by LordFaramir on Jan 14, 2004 10:12:10 GMT -5
i have seen someone do that then mordor easter attack dale and naz harad attack gondor.. it worked ok dale and erebor died but gondor suvived(loss too) but normaly i dont thing that works.. the dwarfs look like noobs ... well i thing its best to hit dale becurse the most dwarf players make cannon T and they take long time to build then a fast attack on dale would help and whit naz to keep fellow away dale die
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 14, 2004 10:34:09 GMT -5
when im dwarfs i mostly have my canons up even if they rush me, u just need to be fast, btw the ones that dont make canons lose dale easily its such a crap, i make 2canons and then only farms just around em so they cant kill my towers so fast!!! and the farms can give the dwrafs get the healing the lack so hard in heroes^^
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Post by ViEDarklord on Jan 14, 2004 12:21:05 GMT -5
Aye you need cannon towers to stop a fast rush, on the other hand it's fair as cannon towers are more expensive then normal ones and are useless alone when the range is closed
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Post by kula on Jan 14, 2004 13:29:42 GMT -5
Well, it'svery hard 2 defend dale if you dont get any help by fellow or elven heroes and i think for naz it's better 2 rush gondor because of dwarf towers and stun ability and when naz are level and doesn't have so much hp they die easily, belive me when naz rushes dale and r level 1 it's christmas for stun...
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Post by Draknan on Jan 14, 2004 14:19:10 GMT -5
With 2 cannon towers behind dale and with the help of the fellowship dale never falls if u ask me...I ve tried it personnally
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Post by infernal on Jan 15, 2004 8:44:30 GMT -5
if I'm nazgul I always take gondor at start though mostly when I play vs pro's I dont focus on actually getting lossa cause that is practically impossible instead I just get xp^^ and I do it before fs and elves even arrive so for instance I always start with waving faramirs troops at osgiliath (almost always works even vs pro's, did it vs nars once^^), and after that I go up and vs a none pro dwarf you get a lot of food and hopefully reach lvl 2 by that attack, a good thing is also to have a good easter with you if they dwarves are stun happy cause then the dwarven heroes are as good as dead imo.. well that's how I usually do as naz, as harad I mostly follows naz in attacks but sometimes I attack gondor on my own if he doesnt have help, in b17 a good harad can really kill a good gondor just pick of his heroes one at the time and raise skellies^^ though that aint gonna work vs a real pro (nars for instance) but vs others it might work..
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Post by infernal on Jan 15, 2004 8:48:04 GMT -5
ow it said mordor and nazgul not nazgul and harad ah what the hell, as mordor it's a good thing to give away mouth to naz (only if he's good and wont lose him right away) because that helps naz alot and gives an easier way to micro shelob and shagrat to heal and hero kill, mostly I hit gondor or vs some really good ppl I let naz get some xp then go hit dale asap.. if you just focus cannon towers he'll be screwed unless fs and elves runs there at start (which they rarely do)..
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 15, 2004 10:11:26 GMT -5
well inf i remember once uppon a time naz often waved faramirs troops...but this is long long time ago since i last lost a simple archer there....if i do well im fast enuf to get em back be4 naz even chose its spells... btw im really thinking of giving mouth to naz now...vie lost mouth in last 2 games we played 2gether nah just a joke vie of course u get him ;D btw i noted that mordor heroes r lost 2 if mouth dies....shelob is always out of mana and if ur lucky u can use web...mana just enuf 4 one spell...but even that is good to kill so many heroes
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Post by infernal on Jan 25, 2004 5:57:40 GMT -5
Well nars mouth is getting buffs and nerfs in d so there naz likely wont use mouth.. cause.. well fcu is adding a new trigger so that if mouth dies mordor cant get sauron hehe even though they got ring, therefor it's very risky to go around with mouth at naz group cause they are a target, instead I think we will see more of mouth hiding behind giant mordor armies because now if good kills mouth they can easily attempt to ringdrop without having to think about the consequences if they would fail since sauron no longer can use it!!
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Post by UnrulyChaos on Jan 25, 2004 19:15:22 GMT -5
What kinda shittrigger is that? Mouth dead = no sauron, thats crap!
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 26, 2004 7:28:04 GMT -5
here i totally agree to chaos mouth isnt so important in the story 4 sauron that he wudnt take the ring if his slave died...
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Post by infernal on Jan 26, 2004 10:45:26 GMT -5
well mouth will also get a number of new spells, for instance it will get a nova with more AoE than nightmare but about half casting range so then you're an easy target for stunners, also mouth's wave will be removed and a lvl 1 wave will be added which you cant lvl, also witchking will get brill aura so then you dont need to use mouth for that purpose.
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Post by NuklearPanda on Jan 26, 2004 16:19:37 GMT -5
Well when DungeonM's map comes out all this is gonna go out the window.
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jan 26, 2004 17:05:29 GMT -5
well inf in that case, mouth wud become as important 4 evil as frodo is 4 good...and thats just shit...mouth is just a slave that sauron uses....make him 2 strong or 2 important is just unlike any part of book or movie!
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Post by infernal on Jan 29, 2004 9:27:49 GMT -5
Yes I agree but most of the west people don't think it's so important to follow the lore in all extent. And yes nuklear DungeonM's map looks REALLY cool, the terrain is truly awesome, don't you think?
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