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Post by narsilLOTR on Jun 14, 2004 4:29:07 GMT -5
I wonder if HDK really said what he said here, thx to mgg his modifying anyways, "Well he did a good job, but with some SIMPLE changes it would be SO MUCH BETTER.. " => no, WITHOUT some simple changes it would have been much better, i.e forgot crap as warg vs rohan, frodo @ osgiliath or elves in hd.... and inf, balorgs were man size, or how do you explain the balrog (not the missformed movie one) could hang around in moria? I remember in book, gandalf fought with him (spiritual way) through a door, gandalf blocked it while balrog crushed da spell...actually, balrogs arent only big bad mean strong pwnage creatures, its more as if they were the opposing thing to gandalf & co, i.e casters...warlocks, battlemages, whatever you wanna call them
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Post by Kieron on Jun 14, 2004 5:53:58 GMT -5
i think peter jackson wanted a big fuck off fire demon (so did i) any of u seen the cartoon lord of the rings?...that balrog is mansized and had no wings...even if it looked like a lion standing on its hindlegs
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 14, 2004 15:19:15 GMT -5
anyways, "Well he did a good job, but with some SIMPLE changes it would be SO MUCH BETTER.. " => no, WITHOUT some simple changes it would have been much better, i.e forgot crap as warg vs rohan, frodo @ osgiliath or elves in hd.... Thats what I say, removing those simple things is a simple change ;D... Driscy where can ya download it? KaZaA? and under which keyword? Lotr Cartoon or sumthing?
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Post by HDK on Jun 14, 2004 16:07:42 GMT -5
grrrr mmg........
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jun 14, 2004 16:48:31 GMT -5
I dont care what peter jackson wanted, and he doesnt care what I want, but if you make a lotr movie, you should try to add in as much from the book as you can, and dont crowd it of useless shit eh...
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Post by OOJ on Jun 14, 2004 17:33:48 GMT -5
The movie is based on the book.
The meaning of "based" means the main story and characters are mostly the same, but it also gives him a license to change things.
Sych as elves in HD , sure they were wrong but it made the movie better, and also Elves and Men still did have an alliance!!! That wasnt a lie, and we all know lorien would have held easy without em.
But if the balrog main so many people and goblins scared then a man-sized beast wouldnt have worked within the movie, so he made it bigger. He didnt cahnge the outcome of the battle or anything stupid like that. But it made a better movie!!
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 15, 2004 1:26:16 GMT -5
I would find a 'small' mansized Balrog more scary then a huge giantic Balrog, it would make him look smarter, and have something from the Devil
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Post by Kieron on Jun 15, 2004 5:30:27 GMT -5
fin...if you saw a fucking giant demon on fire stomping your way, first your gonna relieve yourself then your gonna peg leg it away as fast as possible
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 15, 2004 5:54:25 GMT -5
fin...if you saw a f**king giant demon on fire stomping your way, first your gonna relieve yourself then your gonna peg leg it away as fast as possible If I saw a fucking gian demon on fire stomping my way, then I would crunch his nuts and say: "I'm servant of the Secret Fire, Wielder of the Flame of Anor", and then he falls of a bridge and I'm saved
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Post by narsilLOTR on Jun 15, 2004 6:51:04 GMT -5
ofc Peter Jackson had the right to change things, that doesnt matter for my opinion : the changes he did were crappy.
"Sych as elves in HD , sure they were wrong but it made the movie better, and also Elves and Men still did have an alliance!!! That wasnt a lie, and we all know lorien would have held easy without em."
=> lol? elves and men had no alliance anymore, why you think battle vs sauron was called "last alliance"? elves and men didnt see each other, they were foreigners or however to say that....men feared elves, they didnt understand them and even thought galadriel was an evil "witch". elves didnt care of men and were leaving middle-earth. the fact it were MEN alone that had to fight evil in rohan was imporant in the book and it makes them look like fucking weaklings that they get elves´ help. also its unrealistic, even elves couldnt run from lorien to hd in like 1 day or less...also they say "sent my elrond" : rofl? haldir comes from lorien and obeys galadriel, and hes isnt such a commander and disciplined soldier as in movie, hes a funny chap in the book, happy and all....in general elves are too serious in movie....anyways, what did elves in hd that men couldnt have done? men would ve been more melee, and actually they missed archers in hd in book...and wtf, 300 men in hd in movie or so they say??? lol there were about 1000 men that ride with theoden and eomer from edoras and probably 1000-2000 more in hd, the men that hold the westfold...
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 15, 2004 8:37:49 GMT -5
ofc Peter Jackson had the right to change things, that doesnt matter for my opinion : the changes he did were crappy. "Sych as elves in HD , sure they were wrong but it made the movie better, and also Elves and Men still did have an alliance!!! That wasnt a lie, and we all know lorien would have held easy without em." => lol? elves and men had no alliance anymore, why you think battle vs sauron was called "last alliance"? elves and men didnt see each other, they were foreigners or however to say that....men feared elves, they didnt understand them and even thought galadriel was an evil "witch". elves didnt care of men and were leaving middle-earth. the fact it were MEN alone that had to fight evil in rohan was imporant in the book and it makes them look like f**king weaklings that they get elves´ help. also its unrealistic, even elves couldnt run from lorien to hd in like 1 day or less...also they say "sent my elrond" : rofl? haldir comes from lorien and obeys galadriel, and hes isnt such a commander and disciplined soldier as in movie, hes a funny chap in the book, happy and all....in general elves are too serious in movie....anyways, what did elves in hd that men couldnt have done? men would ve been more melee, and actually they missed archers in hd in book...and wtf, 300 men in hd in movie or so they say??? lol there were about 1000 men that ride with theoden and eomer from edoras and probably 1000-2000 more in hd, the men that hold the westfold... You really take the words outta my mouth, thats just what I think about it ;D
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Post by OOJ on Jun 15, 2004 19:16:00 GMT -5
U said the elves were to serious. U really telling me if they were at war, which maybe wrong in the movie, that they wouldnt become serious.
Also Haldir said sent by elrond true, but if was feasable that elrond had asked Galad to send aid to them. Face it people like to see the elves in the film, it made it better whether u like it or not!!! It added for depth to the film, and some people enjoy watchin films and not comparing it word for word like the book. I bet ur one of those people who moans about everythign thats slightly wrong. Like "Troy" you'll find ever error there is and i bet u loved "Saving Private Ryan", bet u could really moan about every fact that was wrong there.
Face it the film was good with the elves there it made the fight scene better, the balrog looked better stupidly big and harder. The battle with wargs made the remaining men of rohan look brave and ready for war.
I bet frodo was half an inch to tall to or somet, or maybe gimlis axe wasnt quite grey enough?? Noone cares, people say the film was good and it was, the things that Peter Jackson added are fine. Whether it makes u pissed off or not i thinkt he movie was great. And i didnt come out moaning that the balrog was to big, that aragorn was to hard or any other crap. I enjoyed it for wat it was.
Btw the Ring Wars mapped was based on the film, and maybe it shud have stayed like that, the film made people play rw and made these clans formed. It was fuck all to do with the book. So fuck the book, sure its good but the film made the Lord Of The Rings what it is today, not the book!!!
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Post by Kieron on Jun 16, 2004 4:42:59 GMT -5
Still shouldnt of changed faramir
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Post by ToiletDonkey-dk on Jun 16, 2004 6:20:34 GMT -5
ooooooookay... first of all... A Balrog is a maia... and im almost positive i read in the Silmarillion that Maias could change shape and form, which means he could easíly have changed him into a giant fire demon ( i like to belive that at least ). Second of all, if Peter Jackson were 2 make the movie as Tolkien made the books, 1 movie would last about 10-12 hours or so^^ and who wants 2 watch a 10 hour long movie??? and who would finance a such huge movie??? Noone would, so ofc he cut it down to almost minimum of what he could, and still it ended up being 3 hours long or all 3 movies did.... and last but not least... stop making that => arrow thingy...drives me crazy...
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Post by fingolfin on Jun 16, 2004 6:51:21 GMT -5
Deleting stuff is ok for me, but ADDING STUPID STUFF is just.. uhm.. stupid
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